Episode 117: Gender-Identified Religion and the Anti-Missionary Menace

Hey all! The Dire Straits is upon us—that three-week period before the 9th of Av when like all heck breaks lose spiritually. We’re starting out the next few weeks with a break before diving into Mark 13 and 14, and I am going to cover three (at least) topics that people have been requesting I discuss. This week I want to talk about those pesky people who used to be believers before denying Yeshua/Jesus and then become stealth missionaries for the other side, actively manipulating people by presenting the Bible out of context for the sole purpose of slowly converting people away from our Messiah. I will use that as a segue into the problem of male and female identified religions—which is where people who go this path will often end up. Men and couples into more male-identified modes of religious life and women into neo-paganism. After watching this happen for the last eight years, there is a definite trend and I want to talk about how and why it happens.

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Changes in religious beliefs tend to happen over time, but when they do not—when they instead happen suddenly, we will find a catalyst of some sort. Obviously, a personal encounter with Yeshua/Jesus on the way to persecute believers in Damascus in the case of Paul. When I got saved it was because Yahweh was just invading my every waking moment with His presence for like four long, grueling days and forcing me to deal with Him and, when I wanted to become a Jew, He directed me to Jesus instead. Abraham was directly called by Yahweh out of the paganism of his family. Genesis 6 says that Noah found favor with Yahweh and only some time later was he called a righteous man. And that is how it is with us, right? We have no righteousness of our own and we are often a hot mess when Yahweh determines to have our allegiance. Take it from me personally, He doesn’t much care to take no for an answer. We often desire to make the case that Yahweh calls otherwise righteous people but that doesn’t seem to be the general pattern of Scripture. He calls us in spite of ourselves. And that understanding is very important.

There are also religious changes that occur as we grow. Often, we will start out legalistic and zealous—not really knowing much of anything but making up for it by being really passionate about things that we regret in time. As we develop in relationship with Yahweh, our zeal for doctrines transforms into a passionate love for Yahweh and others, which sometimes puts us into opposition with our previously held views. This is how wisdom works—we begin as fools and get wiser, and then we get foolish about a new understanding, and hopefully gain some wisdom, and then keep doing it and hopefully our foolishness gets milder and briefer as we grow. Some folks do seem to only get worse.

Another cause of radical change comes about within the Hebrew Roots Movement and Messianic Judaism when someone gets taken in by anti missionary propaganda. And what do I mean by an anti-missionary? I mean former believers who used to be quite sold out for Yeshua, and I even know of one college professor who teaches textual criticism who makes a lot more money now turning people away from Jesus. But these were people who were, by all outward appearance, true believers with compelling testimonies and the works to go along with it who, for whatever reason, listened to someone who gave them reasons not to believe and they forgot everything they knew experientially and tossed our Lord to the curb in order to become traditional Jews. And the interesting thing is what happens in the aftermath of this and how it is related to gender, of all things.

Hi, I am Tyler Dawn Rosenquist and welcome to Character in Context, where I teach the historical and ancient sociological context of Scripture with an eye to developing the character of the Messiah. If you prefer written material, I have six years’ worth of blog at theancientbridge.com as well as my six books available on amazon—including a four-volume curriculum series dedicated to teaching Scriptural context in a way that even kids can understand it, called Context for Kids—and I have two video channels on YouTube with free Bible teachings for both adults and kids. You can find the link for those on my website. Past broadcasts of this program can be found at characterincontext.podbean.com and transcripts can be had for most broadcasts at theancientbridge.com. If you have kids, I also have a weekly broadcast where I teach them Bible context in a way that shows them why they can trust God and how He wants to have a relationship with them through the Messiah.

This happens during two times of the year—when the anti-missionaries go hunting. And I am not talking about the Jewish anti-missionaries. I have yet to see them care about converting Gentiles away from Jesus—it isn’t on their agenda. I am talking about the former believers in Yeshua—those from the Hebrew Roots Movement and Messianic Judaism who have fallen away and become, really, useful pawns in all of this toward the larger goal of preserving Torah for the Jews only and to eliminate the witness of Yeshua-followers keeping the feast and kosher and all of that. But the wrecking of our faith isn’t the goal, it’s the return of Jews to traditional Judaism that is their goal. Former HRMs and MJs are just useful to them, but they never really seem to be accepted in any real way, into the flock, unless they become full blown conservative Jews.

So, in my personal experience, it happens like this. And if you want to listen to my testimony on this from a couple of years ago, I will link that to the transcript in my blog. Regardless of gender, it goes like this—someone gets to them and they deny. But they won’t come out and announce it like they did when they got saved in the first place—that’s the first red flag for anyone thinking that this is a genuine God-driven correction in belief. Instead, they begin with the talking points—quoting certain scriptures out of their Scriptural and historical context knowing that the body in its current state is influenced too strongly by memory verses and will not bother to do the hard work of learning what the verses meant to the original audience. Taken as secluded islands, they indeed make it sound like Yeshua couldn’t possibly be the Messiah, and the people reading them each day as they go by on the newsfeed or in casual conversation—well, a seed is planted. And a bunch of seeds get planted and all of a sudden people are paying so much attention to their manipulated doubts that they can’t even begin to think straight anymore. Frustration and fear set in. Because the person doing it hasn’t been honest about their intentions, the listener’s/reader’s guard was never up and they went in unprepared. It’s very much like the seduction of a virgin who, before she knows it, is being violated. People deserve to know what we are striving to teach and impart. If it is of God, we can be honest about it.

I am reminded that Yahweh, through the prophets and Yeshua, only taught in parables in order to obscure and prevent conversion, not in order to trick anyone into it. Allegiance, which is what our covenant relationship is primarily based on—whether Sinai or the Cross or both—requires informed consent. When Yahweh was overpowering me with His presence before my conversion, He came at me impressing upon me exactly what He wanted from me. He didn’t want a casual acceptance of His existence—I had known He was real for over a decade at that point. That was never in question. The question was—was I willing to be loyal to Him and accept Him as God on His terms? And He made it very clear to me that His terms included Jesus as my Master and I needed to believe Him. This wasn’t anything I had sought out—quite the contrary. This was unwelcome and unwanted but there wasn’t an ounce of deception involved. He knew what He was demanding from me and so did I—which is why I fought so hard. It’s really very funny now, in retrospect. Like, I thought I could do better on my own.

And by the time these people are in full-fledged crisis, they often are too emotionally wounded with embarrassment at having missed all of this “scriptural evidence” that they had been deceived to be reasoned with. I see this a lot. On a lot of issues. The whole fictional Two Babylons and Fossilized Customs propaganda sounded so outrageous and convincing that no one thinks anyone would have the audacity to make it up so no one does the research to fact check it. Except I did, by accident, and I was horrified at how much my life had been manipulated by absolute nonsense claims that had no archaeological or mythological backing whatsoever. I had been duped by deception and manipulated into false outrage that left me absolutely vulnerable to believe a whole lot more nonsense—just as long as it was telling me that a certain crowd was absolutely deceived about everything. Thankfully, I started studying. But most people can’t, or don’t know how to, or don’t have the time or money or even the desire to do it themselves.

And I am talking about this now because we are in the Dire straits, from the 17th of Tammuz to the 9th of Av when things heat up spiritually and people get nutty and the anti-missionaries get feisty and people start falling away.

But what happens to people after they fall away and how is it very gender-driven? Well, at first the same thing happens to both groups—embarrassment drives them to seek out relief in being right and being part of the religion that they believe rescued them from being “idolaters.” So, they tend to convert, either whole hog or half-heartedly, to Judaism. Men are more likely to convert to conservative forms of Judaism and women to liberal forms (sometimes after being more conservative for a while and not finding it at all to their liking). It often has to do with whether the women are married and if their husbands have also denied. But their personalities change, often radically. I have seen incredibly patient and loving women become monsters. And they don’t see it. They believe they are the same. They don’t see the contempt and the anger. They just feel that they have been freed from deception and are on a crusade—at least those who are open and honest about their new beliefs. Some go a long time before admitting falling away. I wonder if they are told that they need to be secretive so that they won’t be persecuted but then are trained to indoctrinate others quietly and casually. Because they like all do the same thing and once you’ve seen it happen, it becomes obvious—what, is there like some sort of training manual? Inquiring minds want to know.

What happens to them after they deny, as I said, often has a lot more to do with gender than anything else. You’ve got to fill that space where the Holy Spirit once was and so what that looks like, what will satisfy that, is going to be different from person to person. Men generally respond by retreating into tradition, which makes more conservative and orthodox expressions of Judaism attractive for them. As men, the system favors them more than it does women coming into it from the outside. They have new identities that are very male-affirming, prayers where they thank God that they were not born women, cultural markers like tzitzit, and like thousands of years’ worth of new traditions to feel part of—which is also going to come into play with how women handle this ongoing transition but we will talk about that later. Men making this change get a lot more support and respect than women do and when they dive into the Torah and the Talmud, they find very little there that demeans them as males and a whole lot propping up their egos.

Now out from under the really hard, take no prisoners on your inner life, teachings of Yeshua, they are not required to forgive pre-emptively—which is a real sticking point of contention between many Jews and Christians. Turning the other cheek—gone. Blessing those who curse and persecute you—poof! And they can be replaced with rituals and tradition, which are a lot easier than the hard work of heart reform. And they allow for a lot more pride to foster. Because, frankly, when people haven’t been raised within the culture of Judaism, what they do with it is often really off base and off-track. How do I put this…well, when you aren’t raised within the mindset of Judaism (or anything, really) you see all the forms but not the function and you miss the spirit of it. And so, people who deny Yeshua and “become Jews” are often Jews in name only—because that was what they were left with when they denied Yeshua. They weren’t pagans on the outskirts who were drawn to Judaism because they saw something in it that was excellent—no, it became their default decision after rejecting the back of the book. And this works out for men a lot more successfully than it does for women. And if you think this is just me, no my Jewish friends notice it too—that Judaism as a default position to being Hebrew Roots or Messianic (unless you start out Jewish) is a recipe for disaster and especially for women.

Judaism isn’t just a religion, it’s a culture. It isn’t anything like following Yeshua, in some ways. Judaism looks pretty much the same regardless of what culture to find it in. But following Yeshua can look very different here in the States than it does in Africa or Asia. And I think that’s a positive thing, personally. All nations, peoples and tongues worshipping before the throne—that’s what it looks like. Different cultures, different music—but, one Master and one Lord. But, when people who have known salvation, when they deny Yeshua and become Jews only because they see that the Bible is truth and see it as their only alternative—that’s not the same thing as choosing to become Jewish. That’s treating Judaism like some sort of consolation prize. And for couples to are attracted to that way of life, they can find enjoyment in it, okay? But for single men, there can be real problems and for single women it can be even worse. Single men, unless they want to go full blown conversion, which a lot do not want to do, they just want to play at Judaism, find themselves second-class citizens. You know, something that does not exist in the followers of Yeshua—or at least it shouldn’t. We are told—no male or female, slave or free, Jew or Gentile. And hopefully we believe that. Hopefully we also act like it is true. Not everyone does, obviously.

But those who lodge themselves halfway between what it looks like to follow Yeshua and full-blown Judaism, they end up as people without any kind of home. Except with one another and that is why I feel they make such an attempt to recruit others. People who already felt lonely in the HRM or as Messianics and who are needing identity—having given up identity in Messiah—tend to become more so. They now believe that Yeshua-followers are idolaters so they can’t go back and worship with them, the online personalities associated with their newfound beliefs generally are angry and spend a lot of their time insulting Yeshua-followers—and of course, they stop calling Him Yeshua, they use Jesus now. Which is a second red flag. People who spent so much time online harping on the name Jesus now only want to use Jesus—why can’t they bear to say the name Yeshua? That should really concern anyone wanting to consider what it is they are talking about. If they can’t be honest anymore, okay? If they can’t use the name they know is correct? Why is that? Good question. Are they actively lying, or being insulting, or can they just not bear to say His Name anymore now that they have denied and betrayed Him?

And so, you get people on the fringes—wanting to be Jews but not really wanting to be Jews. They want to call themselves Jews but really they just want what is left over from the Bible after they take Yeshua out of it, it’s something to cling to. And some actively avoid the Bible after that and immerse themselves in Talmudic, and Midrashic teachings. So much so that they get into trouble there too—not understanding how Jews use these. I have seen people not understand the first thing about how to use the legendary materials and go off the deep end, not understanding when they have massively diverted from Scripture and thinking that somehow this is commentary that draws only from the text instead of “what if” stories—which is how Jews understand them. They start getting treated as divinely inspired. I had this guy come on my wall back in February, after the whole Stewart-Allen Clark fiasco back last winter, when we were talking about the double standards for men and women and were talking about Bathsheba and how the text describes her as innocent and only David as guilty, and he comes on with both guns blazing talking about how she was perfumed and wearing jewelry and all prepared to seduce him. Is that in the text? No, not even close. But the problem was that he had so immersed himself in Midrashic literature that he had lost touch with the text. Instead of reading it as a “what if” story, he was presuming that anything written by the rabbis is divinely inspired or at least not departing from the text.

But, someone correct me if I am wrong, that is not how anyone raised within Judaism views all of this. They inject these “what-if” stories in order to teach concepts, not to replace the Biblical text. And it’s misunderstandings like this that make non-Jews, in general, a poor fit for conversion. Same with a lot of the traditions and rituals of Orthodox Jewish life. They aren’t things to be tacked on to a pre-existing life, they are cultural and to try and understand them otherwise just courts disaster.

And, like I said, men do better with this than women do because when you are not raised in this, as a man there is less objectionable material than there is for a woman. Much of the Rabbinic commentary comes out of the Middle Ages, in which women (in both Judaism and Christianity) were blamed for much of the evils of humanity and for being just flat out objectionable in general. Now, the Scriptures do not support this—but it was the times and they were what they were. That’s why it is important to never read any sort of commentary or any sort of literature in a vacuum. You need to know when it was written, who wrote it, where they lived, how they lived, what genre it represents, what the historical situation at the time was, how they looked at such literature, opposing viewpoints because Judaism has never been monolithic, etc. But there is this crazy idea out there that the only thing that ancient Jews were capable of writing was Scripture. No sir, they wrote some brilliant fiction and lots of it. They also wrote a lot of commentary on their times, tying Scripture to prophetic fulfillment in their own lives. They wrote wisdom sayings, apologetics, histories, polemic, apocalypses, personal letters, etc. All of these have to be read differently—same with all the different genres in the Bible. We should not read an epistle like a Gospel, or like a wisdom saying, or like love poetry, or like an apocalypse. In the same vein, we should not read a parable like a history! People do it though, and they get themselves and others into some trouble when they do.

So, where am I going with this? This affects how men and women react when confronted with this sort of literature. And it affects whether or not they are going to actually convert to Judaism or turn away into something else entirely. For men, Judaism provides camaraderie and a lot of structure that can be very appealing amidst the insanity and chaos of modern society. It can be very comforting to belong to something that is thousands of years old—although modern Judaism is really as much or more shaped by medieval thinking that Mosaic. And by this, I am talking about a very heavy reliance on Maimonides, or the RAMBAM, who lived and wrote almost exclusively during the late 12th century and really he is the most respected commentator on Scripture, period. No one else holds a candle to him—with the exception of Chabad leaders within that sect.

Judaism is not all that challenging to men as long as they like structure. As the Bible was written within a patriarchal culture where women were considered to be inferiors, and Moses’s allowances (which Yeshua makes reference to not really approving of) very much prop up that sort of culture. He doesn’t outlaw polygyny even though he owns that co-wives are rivals and not “sister-wives”. He doesn’t allow women to divorce men, only men to divorce women.  Adultery is written of as a crime against another man, either husband, father or betrothed and not a crime against one’s own wife. Whereas an adulterous woman was sinning against her husband. Daughters could be sold as wives/slaves. Women taken in the aftermath of battle, if virgins, were to be forced into slavery and marriage, depending on the whim of her captors. Otherwise, they were killed. A foreign woman who was not a virgin was without value. So, men are presented with a historical situation that was recorded and sometimes this gets treated as if it was God’s will for this to be normative, or universal forever, instead of the reality of the ancient Near Eastern culture that Yahweh was invading and intervening in—to begin to show His people another way. Truly, the Sinitic Covenant was much better for women than anything else in the region. The laws of the surrounding areas were terrifying. Sinai was the starting line, not the finish line.

And so, when men come in to Torah from the outside and when they have thrown off the interpretations of Yeshua, who tells men accustomed to patriarchy that He instead expects them to be meek, loving, forgiving, non-retaliatory, non-violent, to forgo abusive language and trickery and even hidden hatred and lust that doesn’t get acted on; when He tells men that divorcing their wives for anything other than her unfaithfulness makes them adulterers and that polygyny does as well (I will show where He makes this claim next week)—well, devoid of Yeshua and apart from having been raised as a Jew, I have seen this become a recipe for disaster for the wife and kids, who were not really shown to have much respect or even a place at the table when it comes to the kids, in the ancient world that the Bible tells its stories in the midst of. Remember that the Bible tells us what was going on and not always what should have been going on. Patriarchs lied, cheated and swindled without any value judgments assigned to their actions. They are just recorded along with whatever consequences happened, if any. The untrained observer, unfamiliar with the ancient Near Eastern context, is left to imagine a God who has none or little love for women.

Traditional Jewish men pray this prayer in the morning, ““Blessed are you, Lord, our God, ruler of the universe who has not created me a woman.” And although modern apologists insist that it merely means a gratitude that men are obligated to keep more commandments, anyone who has spent any time in the medieval traditions knows darned well that is not what they meant. In fact, authors going back to ben Sira in the second century BCE have insanely vile things to say about women, in keeping with the surrounding culture. Of course, as I often teach, when we look at the trajectory of Scriptures, we see God’s people moving from things like misogyny and slavery being normal and accepted (again, we will talk about that next week) to the same things being incredibly distasteful. No believers today, I don’t think, would argue for chattel slavery of the kind we see in Exodus 23, where you can beat your slave to death as long as they live longer than a day because, after all, they are your property (obviously an allowance of Moses because we know that slaves are fully human and no human is to be reduced to property status)—no one would argue that slavery is okay simply because Moses never forbade it. Moses himself likely was very much at home with the idea of women being inferior, slavery being okay, and men only being accountable to other men but women and children being accountable to men and certainly not the other way around.

Yahweh deals with us where we are. Not just people groups but with us as individuals. And although most men these days and especially men who became believers later in life, are disgusted by misogyny and prejudice—it is more palatable to men who were brought up in churches that promoted it. And it takes a long time for Yahweh to work that out of people, okay? I mean, even after 22 years He has cultural stuff and paradigms that He is dealing with in me too—so I don’t take it personally when a man won’t listen to me teach or thinks I should be quiet. I am not forcing myself on him or arguing with him—what good would it do? I am not his God and he doesn’t answer to me. I don’t hate him or think he is an idiot. I recognize that what we have been taught to accept goes really deep. I trust God to work it out, if He so desires. I actually don’t think it is the most important issue out there anyway.

So, I think letting go of Yeshua and Paul and Peter and James and all that, it just makes it easier and can be somewhat of a relief because the demands of the Sermon on the Mount just never let up. We will never reach perfection. Our righteousness must exceed that of the people who know and outwardly observe the law the best. That isn’t a game we can ever win through our own efforts or feel justifiably prideful about. Or is that just me? And maybe that’s why so many of these guys just get so abusive and destructive and can’t even talk about Yeshua or those who follow Him without all the mocking and insults. Because, the Scriptures are clear—the more we truly walk with Him, the less of that we will end up doing and the more loving, joyful, peaceful, patient, kind, good, trusting, gentle, and self-controlled we will become. I mean, when I look at these anti-missionaries who are plaguing the Hebrew Roots crowd, I don’t see real Jews. Real Jews don’t spend much time thinking about Yeshua at all, much less having a vendetta of going after Him, real Jews have a life. So, Messianic Jews of course are the exception because they think about Yeshua as much as we do, obviously!

So, I mean, that’s the male identified religion that men who have denied Yeshua glom onto. They go for the more patriarchal modes of thought and doctrines and disciplines. But what about women? Well, that generally doesn’t work for women as well and especially women who are used to being a lot more liberated. Women tend to read the Bible a whole, whole lot more than men do. Women are more religious than men in general. We just are—maybe it’s because we have more time on our hands! Maybe it’s because traditionally we have had to cleave to God more than men have felt they need to. I am sure there are lots of reasons. Some traditions of Judaism just flat out acknowledge that women are more spiritual than men. That doesn’t mean better or superior, just that we are different. I believe in the beginning we were created as flip sides of the same coin in order to perfectly balance one another out as equals. My husband and I see one another as equals and we yield to one another according to our strengths. My husband doesn’t need the upper hand. He doesn’t need or want to rule over anyone or to have that kind of authority. He needs an equal, not an underling. He thinks that life would be quite lonely without an equal.

But women, because we are more inclined to read the Bible and supplementary materials for ourselves—women tend to get pretty unhappy pretty quickly with Judaism without Yeshua as the final interpreter of the Torah. A lot of what He did to include women in His ministry, and Paul’s words about there being no male or female or slave or free in Christ (meaning no hierarchy) and the detailed lists of female apostles, deacons and such—well, for most modern women, they find they have lost too much to be happy in Judaism. Added to that, another big problem. It doesn’t take them very long to start applying the same criticisms to the Hebrew Scriptures that the anti-missionaries applied to the first century writings. And because they aren’t looking at the Bible as wisdom literature written within a historical reality, they begin to pick it apart. They notice the rulings that are now untempered by the wisdom of Yeshua. The allowances of Moses are no more to be considered allowances from Moses due to hardness of heart but the very eternal dictates and will of Yahweh as normative forever. They encounter not a God who was intervening in a patriarchal nightmare for their benefit, but one who is not much unlike all of the pagan gods of the past—determined to love men and keep women subservient and even abused and used. That culture only looked good to women who were comparing it to the reality of the rest of the pre-Cross world. And it was better, but Torah never made anything perfect. Torah contained and limited sin until the coming of the Messiah. That’s why Paul calls it our tutor and it is good for that purpose but we needed the death and resurrection of Yeshua to set us free from bondage and so that our hearts could be circumcised and God’s intentions written on our hearts—His intentions of no oppression, hierarchies, hatred, all the nasty works of the flesh in Galatians 5.

So, what are women to do? I believe that they begin to long for that love they had from the Bridegroom—but they now believe the entire Bible is a farce. And yet, they generally have enough memory of things they can’t explain without God and so they go one of two ways or one way and then another. From what I see, most women go looking for what I call a more female-identified religion. Where traditional Judaism provides that male-identification, it doesn’t do well for women who were not raised in that culture to accept it as normative. They see it instead as restrictive and even devaluing—and this is what I see from the outside and watching conversations of those who have gone this route. They want to feel good and valued and they don’t see what traditional Judaism offers as being satisfying and they are rejecting the Bible anyway. So, our culture has a lot of women pulling into neo-paganism, wicca, crystals, laws of attraction (not the kind in physics textbooks but something where people who don’t understand Quantum physics, which I got a really high grade in, made some really bad connections based on not having a baseline understanding of how it works), shamanism, magic-driven naturopathy (no, I am not calling all naturopathic medicine pagan, but you’ve possibly seen it when it crosses the line into being more like magic), etc.. and it is all very female identified, goddess centered. Whereas Yahweh is spirit but metaphorically identified as male in Scripture, they can instead trade all that in for a fully-realized female nature goddess whom they can trust to not be traditionally male which, as I myself can attest to, can be very scary. I know men hate the phrase toxic masculinity, but traditional forms of masculinity can be extremely toxic. Just check out the honor/shame dynamics of Yeshua’s day, boy howdy. To be a healthy man is one thing, and a good thing, but historically, very few women would want to go back in time even a hundred years to where there was no such legal thing as marital rape or spousal abuse or even child abuse—it was just the patriarch’s right and during ancient times, he had the right to kill anyone under his roof with impunity. Thank God for Yeshua and the cross and how He changed society and what it means to be a man.

But, back to the women who are seeking to get what they had back—some of them really buy into to the whole neo-pagan lifestyle and the reason it is palatable is because it has nothing in common with ancient paganism. No one from ancient Babylon or Egypt or Greece or any of those places would look at what is being done and would recognize anything. That’s because neo-paganism is entirely a creation of the last two hundred years based on romantic literature, which was originally written to appeal to a more female audience anyway. And romance literature isn’t based on historical truths because they weren’t big on archaeology, but instead on author’s ideas about what a world with magic and magical creatures might have been like. I know a lot of people, personally, from before I was a believer, who live very happily within that system. It affirms them as valuable, gives them a bit of a feeling like they can have some control over the chaos of their world, connects them to the spiritual side of life, and makes absolutely no ethical demands of them. But it also doesn’t really offer any sort of true substance.

Because of this, women who were formerly followers of Yeshua often only find it entertaining until they run out of new and exciting things to learn and do. Then the buzz wears off—and this happens a lot. People follow the knowledge train and take it as far as they can, never being able to be satisfied by it because no knowledge is never enough. And when it crashes at the end of the line, they find themselves empty and oftentimes atheists. And angry. Angry at religion. Angry at people who are still believers. Unable to see what they have lost because they are so determined that all it ever was, was one big deception. And the anti-missionaries who messed them up in the first place? They’ve moved on to their next target. They aren’t there to be spiritual advisors. They were there to recruit and to destroy faith. Mission accomplished.

And this identification religion, it can be a huge problem in more ways than just with these extreme cases. Wanting something to give you an identity other than the one we have been granted in Messiah as disciples, which is a huge honor based on who we were before, right? I know it is for me. But when we seek anything for ourselves apart from that core identity—when we feel we need to change our names, and pretend to be Jews, or to speak Heblish just because who we are doesn’t feel special or relevant enough—that’s a trap. Two of my favorite Bible characters really have no lines. Apollos and Junia. Both named after pagan gods. And both apostles, male and female. And these were incredibly common names in the Greco-Roman world. You would think that if anyone would change their names, these two would, as they travelled around and no one can even say their names without invoking a false god. But them going around with those names and preaching Yahweh and Yeshua, it was like the biggest disrespect to Apollo and Juno imaginable. Every time they spoke, it was like the false gods themselves were rolling over and prostrating themselves before the King of kings and Lord of lords.

Same with us. When Tyler Rosenquist, in light of who I used to be and do and say and believe, goes around proclaiming Yeshua and the word of God? Well, it means something because of my former identity, not in spite of it. God wins. Satan loses.




Are Easter and Christmas really based upon Babylonian (or any other) paganism? A collection of research articles.

Read this first part carefully:

Ministry 101: No matter how carefully or clearly anyone expresses themselves, their intentions, and their beliefs, others will always use what you say to justify what they decide to do. If it happened to Yeshua/Jesus, Moses, Paul (who actually wasn’t all that clear), Peter, John, etc…then it will be doubly true for the rest of us. I haven’t endorsed Christmas, nor do I condemn those who celebrate. My one and only goal has been to clean up the house of God and our witness. When we distribute falsehoods in service of an agenda (and trying to take down Christmas and Easter are HUGE money-making agendas and even idols within some crowds) then we are playing by the rules of the world and we are destroying our credibility. People deserve the respect of being presented, not with manipulative horror stories of dubious authenticity, but the truth so that they can work out what they are going to do with God. When we strip them of that ability, we are subverting the authority of the Holy Spirit. I love the Body of Messiah. I love the Gospel. But I refuse to oppose anything with lies and bad information. God doesn’t need me to do that in order to accomplish His will. He desires we be truthful, that we encourage people toward righteousness, hold them responsible when they need to be held accountable and then to get out of His way. Just FYI, as a free ministry, I in no way profit from any of this. My goal isn’t to prove that Christmas and Easter aren’t pagan, but to take out the trash that is tossed around twice a year by people who should instead be committed to the truth. I give them the truth so that they make make their own choices, free from manipulation and propaganda.

I believe sometimes that our desire to control the outcome (when people are committed to getting others to stop celebrating C&E in this case, at any cost) leads us to fearfully resort to the world’s tactics. But it isn’t our job to control anyone–Yahweh doesn’t even try to control us like that so how dare we with others?

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An increasing number of Hebrew Roots ministries are backing down from, and retracting, the once very common teachings about the hypothetical ancient pagan origins of Christmas and Easter. However, the memes and googled pages that lack, and sometimes falsify, any sort of substantiation for their supposed archaeological claims are probably never going away. People lifted them long before the ministries retracted them. It’s a veritable pandora’s box. And people are willing to pour huge amounts of money into ministries that support and promote this, so it will never go away entirely.

So, twice a year, a month before Christmas and a month before Easter, I have posted a list of the research from myself and some others addressing a lot of the Easter/Ishtar accusations and the Tammuz/Lent misunderstanding, where we actually probably got colored eggs (from the Jews and fron fasting, not the pagans), etc. I decided in 2019 to just go ahead and make a big note of it so people could access it whenever they wanted to but then Facebook discontinued notes in October so I had to put this all here instead. This is provided for informational purposes, and I hope no one will force this stuff onto other people’s private walls and embarrass them. I don’t work that way and so I pray you won’t use my (or anyone else’s) research that way either. Share to your own social media platforms, if you so desire, but in my experience–jumping onto someone’s meme with a thousand likes where they are feeling really knowledgable and like they are doing a service to God and publicly humiliating them just doesn’t work. It almost always backfires so let’s be gentle, wise and kind. I have never forced this information on people but over the past six years, I have seen some amazing progress in this area. These claims are dying because they are being exposed to the truth.

You all probably know I don’t celebrate Christmas or Easter but do celebrate and teach the Feasts. Please don’t believe the lie circulating out there that I ever did this to “get in good with my Christian friends and family” because they really have never seemed to care whether I celebrate or not and I move so often that I never have any friends to speak of who would care either. I stumbled across this information accidentally while researching the defiling of the Temple back in early 2015. As I studied Babylonian, Assyrian, Hittite, Egyptian and Canaanite mythologies, I stumbled across the startling fact that I couldn’t substantiate a single thing I had ever heard. When I moved on into Gero-Roman times, I also came up empty on the Mithraic and Saturnalian claims. In fact, I recently discovered that there were no claims whatsoever that Christmas had pagan roots until the 12th century. I absolutely will discuss this stuff with anyone else who has read the source material I cite. But I will ask if the material has been read so that we are sure to be on equal footing. I will not argue with opinions when we have actual facts available. This is too emotional a subject, and it is needlessly divisive for all the wrong reasons. I have ministered to people who have ruined their families over this, and even their marriages.

In general, people often just honestly don’t know how to discern a good from a bad source and so books with titles like, “101 Facts About Christmas” are mistaken for actual researched and verified works of scholarship. In actuality, anyone can publish a book that says anything these days–and you can call anything a fact. No one is going to do anything about it. The only thing you can do is refuse to pass along anything that does not pass archaeological muster, and to learn to ask polite questions about people’s sources. In general, they won’t have anything–and I don’t say this to be unkind, it hasn’t honestly occurred to them that they should have proof, or that proof is anything other than “it looks legit to me” or “it’s obvious” or “my teacher says it is true.” But 21st-century monotheists without a shared cultural worldview will never be able to correctly judge or understand anything ancient based on our modern context. People hear these things from someone they love and respect, and so you have to be careful when challenging it. Good people get caught up in believing things without asking for proof if enough people are saying it–there is always the illusion of credibility in numbers. But if we are going to teach people that they are pagans for doing something, we need to have more than opinions. This was a death penalty offense in ancient Israel, and facts were required to make such an accusation.

If you want something added to the list, please send it to me. I will only consider material that actually has legitimate sources cited–I am not likely to watch any video or listen to any podcast that isn’t from a recognized expert. Too many videos and podcasts and googles pages come with grandiose claims but isn’t enough to claim “Tertullian said such and such” without a reference to exactly where I can find it. I verify everything. (Just FYI, Tertullian never said anything about Christmas because it didn’t exist during his life).

Nimrod teachings

On my radio show for kids (airing daily on I Will Gather You Radio and weekends on Hebrew Nation Radio), we covered Nimrod as part of exploring Genesis verse by verse (although that’s going to have to change when we get to Lot and his daughters) but these teachings are still entirely based on scholarly, peer-reviewed materials:

Nimrod and the Bible https://contextforkids.com/2022/05/02/episode-56-nimrod-and-the-bible

Nimrod: The Man, the Myths, and the Legends https://contextforkids.com/2022/05/09/episode-57-nimrod-the-man-the-myths-and-the-legends/

Christmas ones are on top, Easter below.

NEW! (2023) Christmas, Paganism, and Church History https://fyreis.substack.com/p/christmas-paganism-and-church-history?

NEW! (2023)–Challenging December on Trialhttps://www.youtube.com/live/RiE9DplP7Ro?si=eWqtE3g615WBfBZA and https://www.youtube.com/live/fLwcJ9y_vpI?si=_ARvFxSExZu9pqKc

NEW! From an atheist with a Masters in History who is trying to clean up the misinformation spread by his fellow atheists https://historyforatheists.com/2020/12/pagan-christmas/

NEW! Are Christmas and Mithras related? https://historyforatheists.com/2016/12/the-great-myths-2-christmas-mithras-and-paganism/

NEW! Just How Pagan is Christmas really? https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2019/12/08/just-how-pagan-is-christmas-really/

NEW! Origin of Christmas Trees https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2018/12/05/the-origins-of-the-christmas-tree/

NEW! I hate Santa Claus, personally, but this is interesting https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2019/12/07/the-long-strange-fascinating-history-of-santa-claus/

How do I personally feel about Christmas and Easter? (Don’t believe the lies and “OPINIONS” out there, get it from my own mouth, er, fingers) http://theancientbridge.com/2016/02/so-what-about-christmas-and-easter-from-my-rewrite-of-the-bridge-crossing-over-into-the-fullness-of-covenant-life/

My friend David Wilber wrote an article addressing the controversy https://davidwilber.me/articles/should-christians-celebrate-christmas

Confronting the Atheist “Many gods were born on Dec 25th” claim. (Yes I know December 25th isn’t Messiah’s birthday either but let’s not pass around Atheist propaganda) http://theancientbridge.com/2017/10/q-how-many-pagan-gods-were-born-of-virgins-or-even-born-on-december-25th-a-zero/

And another on the same topic by James-Michael Smith https://www.discipledojo.org/blog/pagan-jesus

Were Horus and Osiris really born on December 25th? http://theancientbridge.com/2016/01/this-is-the-beginning-of-months-for-you-egyptian-calendars-the-birthdays-of-the-gods-and-why-goshen-was-the-best-of-the-land/

What is Jeremiah 10 actually talking about? Should we twist Scripture to fit our anti-Christmas (or any) agendas? http://theancientbridge.com/2015/10/confronting-the-memes-pt-7-did-jeremiah-condemn-christmas-trees-or-are-we-being-anachronistic/

I covered the topic of whether Jeremiah and Isaiah were talking about Christmas trees in their idol polemics on my radio show last year http://theancientbridge.com/2019/12/episode-39-isaiah-and-the-messiah-part-6-441-23-jer-10-habbakuk-2-and-christmas-trees/

A balanced look at the origins of Christmas and the modern ethical dilemmas with celebrating https://www.derekpgilbert.com/2018/12/23/merry-non-pagan-christmas

One on December 25th
https://triablogue.blogspot.com/2008/12/december-25-and-paganism.html

Hippolytus, in the third century, made a comment about December 25 being the date of the birth of Messiah in his commentary on Daniel. This article explores his comment and context further. Please note, this is not posted here as a defense of that date but as historical context to the date. https://www.facebook.com/groups/233047447490355/permalink/581281752666921?sfns=mo

Is Christmas really tied to Sol Invictus? https://web.archive.org/web/20140721141415/http://chronicon.net/blog/christmas/sol-invictus-evidently-not-a-precursor-to-christmas/

Are Obelisks (or Christmas trees for that matter) really Phallic symbols? http://theancientbridge.com/2015/06/confronting-pseudo-archaeological-memes-pt-2-are-obelisks-really-well-you-know/

This is actually well researched and I am familiar with many of his cited sources and the scholarship of the works he cites https://web.archive.org/web/20170128161856/http://historum.com/blogs/sankari/621-december-25-no-connection-tammuz-saturnalia-sol-invictus-mithras.html

How did the early Church come up with December 25th? Well, it’s actually pretty interesting https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/new-testament/how-december-25-became-christmas/

Is Christmas based on Saturnalia? https://www.idolkiller.com/post/is-christmas-based-on-saturnalia

Usener’s Christmas – an article by Roman Historian Stephen Hijmans, an undisputed expert in Roman history and all things related to Sol Invictushttps://www.academia.edu/987479/Useners_Christmas_A_Contribution_to_the_Modern_Construct_of_Late_Antique_Solar_Syncretism_in_M._Espagne_and_P._Rabault-Feuerhahn_edd._Hermann_Usener_und_die_Metamorphosen_der_Philologie._Wiesbaden_Harrassowitz_2011._139-152

Dr Heiser’s take on whether Christmas is pagan https://nakedbiblepodcast.com/podcast/naked-bible-195-is-christmas-a-pagan-holiday/
and a transcript of the podcast here: http://nakedbiblepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/NB-195-Transcript.pdf

Easter/Lent articles

NEW!! From an atheist with a Masters in History who is trying to clean up the misinformation spread by his fellow atheists https://historyforatheists.com/2017/04/easter-ishtar-eostre-and-eggs/

Was there really an Ishtar Sunday? Did the Queen of heaven dip eggs in baby blood? http://theancientbridge.com/2015/10/who-was-the-queen-of-heaven-and-did-she-really-dip-eggs-in-the-blood-of-infants-ezekiel-8-in-context-part-2/

Is Lent related to Tammuz? What do we know about Tammuz? http://theancientbridge.com/2015/09/who-was-tammuz-and-why-and-when-were-the-women-weeping-for-him-ez-8-from-the-ancient-near-eastern-context/

Did we get Hot Cross Buns from Ishtar? http://theancientbridge.com/2016/04/wwie-what-would-ishtar-eat-baking-cakes-for-the-queen-of-heaven-jeremiah-7-in-context-part-2/

Atheists debunking the Eostre/Ishtar myth. https://historyforatheists.com/2017/04/easter-ishtar-eostre-and-eggs

A balanced, responsible article relating the origins of Easter and the Passover vs Resurrection question: http://theancientbridge.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Americas_Favorite_Holidays_Candid_Histories_-_3._Easter-1.pdf

Is Easter from Ishtar? by Tim Hegg https://torahresource.com/does-easter-come-from-ishtar/

From an admitted pagan who actually does some really creditable research into her own religion https://bellejar.ca/2013/03/28/easter-is-not-named-after-ishtar-and-other-truths-i-have-to-tell-you/

Another pagan who went looking for deep roots and didn’t find them http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/502368.html?thread=7943520

How abstaining from eggs gave the world Easter eggs–after having chickens for two years this made total sense. http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/2010/february/how-fast-of-lent-gave-us-easter-eggs.html

How the 33rd Day of the Counting of the Omer might have given us egg hunts (I learned a lot of ancient near eastern context from the book “An Egg at Easter” by Venetia Newell – impeccably researched and very easily had online). https://www.facebook.com/tyler.rosenquist/posts/10213621802363307

Miscellaneous articles

A very well researched video from Andre-Philippe Therrien covering the problem with using Hislop’s The Two Babylons, and all books based on it, as sources https://youtu.be/MM3rhY5vGPc

Before anyone counters with Hislop or any works based on Hislop (which would be anything making Nimrod associations), please read this article from Ralph Woodrow, who made a career, and a lot of money, off of writing a book he never researched himself (called Mystery Babylon) based entirely on Hislop’s writings. http://www.equip.org/article/the-two-babylons/

Everything we do know about Nimrod historically and in literature throughout the ages. Everything else is late date urban legends. Van der Toorn is an incredible scholar. http://www.godawa.com/chronicles_of_the_nephilim/Articles_By_Others/Van_der_Toorn-Nimrod_before_and_after_the_Bible.pdf

Does neo-paganism have deep roots, as many adherents claim? A great and honest article by a neo-pagan http://www.patheos.com/blogs/allergicpagan/2015/06/07/a-brief-history-of-neo-paganism/

Excellent scholarly book on the history of the Christian calendar and celebrations https://www.amazon.com/dp/0391041231

How can we tell if an observance is pagan, or just cultural? http://theancientbridge.com/2015/12/pagan-or-cultural/

Resources from Matthew Higdon (I haven’t checked out most of these but I am very familiar with some of the scholars)

For Christmas:

Andrew McGowan, Ancient Christian Worship: Early Church Practices in Social, Historical, and Theological Perspective (Baker Academic, 2014), 249–59.
Stephen Nissanbaum, The Battle for Christmas (Vintage, 1997).
Susan K. Roll, Toward the Origins of Christmas (Kol Pharos, 1995).
Paul Bradshaw and Maxwell Johnson, The Origins of Feasts, Fasts, and Seasons in Early Christianity (Liturgical Press, 2011).
Martin Connell, “The Origins and Evolution of Advent in the West” in “Between Memory and Hope: Readings on the Liturgical Year,” ed. John Baldovin and Maxwell Johnson (Liturgical Press, 2000), 349–71.
Joseph F. Kelley, “The Origins of Christmas” (Liturgical Press, 2014).
Thomas J. Talley, “The Origins of the Liturgical Year” (Liturgical Press, 1991).

Tom Holland, “The myth of ‘pagan’ Christmas,” Unherd: https://unherd.com/2020/12/the-myth-of-pagan-christmas

For Easter:
N. T. Wright, The Resurrection of the Son of God (Fortress, 2003).
Christopher Bryan, The Resurrection of the Messiah (Oxford, 2011).
Pinches Lapide, The Resurrection of Jesus: A Jewish Perspective (Wipf and Stock, 2002).
Dale C. Allison, Jr., Resurrecting Jesus: The Earliest Christian Tradition and Its Interpreters (T&T Clark International, 2005).
Paul Bradshaw, Passover and Easter: Origin and History to Modern Times (U Notre Dame, 2000).
Then there’s the usual fare by William Lane Craig, Mike Licona, and Gary Habermas.
Personally, I’ve found the most fruitful books on this to be scholarly dialogues: “Jesus’s Resurrection: Fact or Figment?: A Debate Between William Lane Craig and Gerd Ludemann” and “The Resurrection of Jesus: John Dominic Crossan and N. T. Wright in Dialogue.” They furnish the reader with a sense of the relative strengths and weaknesses of each position.



Episode 27: Rosh HaShanah and the Higher Criticism Myth of Pagan Origins

Rosh HaShanah/Yom Teruah/the Feast of Trumpets is upon us and so are the memes and stories making claims that this Biblical celebration has its roots in the pagan Akitu Festival of ancient Babylon. So, this week we are going to study (1) how can we celebrate the renewal of the year in the Fall when the months begin in the Spring and what does the Bible and archaeology show us, (2) what are “German Higher Criticism” hypotheses and how have their inclusion in the 1909 Jewish Encyclopedia led to confusion within the Hebrew Roots Movement in a number of areas, (3) What is the Akitu festival, what does akitu mean, what did they do during the festival, and how long did it last as compared to Rosh HaShanah?

Oftentimes these claims of pagan origins can be deflated fairly easily by actually studying the copious amounts of archaeological data we have concerning the rites in question. At such a joyous time of year, it is a terrible scourge to see so many people making claims based on urban legends, rumors, and the kinds of “Higher Criticism” claims that led a multitude, for hundreds of years, to doubt the historical authenticity of Scripture itself.

This week’s “transcript” is actually an old blog post, so here’s the link to that.




Social Media Bullying: Is “Christ” a pagan word?

While finding old articles to transfer from social media to my blog, I happened upon this one from two years ago. I am finally starting to really get feeling better and was able to read an actual scholarly article this morning without any confusion, so this is great progress and I have a lot of hope that I will soon be operating at pre-stroke mental capabilities soon! God is so good!

December 31, 2015

We need to stop being afraid of words and we need to stop being intimidated by those who label everything as pagan but without anything but wild stories backing it up – there are people out there who want to outlaw just about every word that has been associated with Christianity, sometimes making up preposterous stories about pagan origins – I covered “Amen” in my blog a couple of weeks back – how about “Christ.” I was looking at the Septuagint earlier in the week and found this in Habakkuk.

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Habakkuk 3:13 in the Septuagint – referring to the Messiah as the ‘anointed’ – the word is christos. The Septuagint (translation began during 3rd century BCE and was completed roughly 132 BCE) was translated by a group of 70 (or 72) great Torah scholars who were fluent in Greek, and is an incredibly useful tool for the understanding of what words meant in context at the time. Many quotes from of the Tanack (OT) by the NT authors were actually taken from the Septuagint version, which is why they do not match up perfectly with the Hebrew. Evidently, the scholars saw no problem with using the word christos in Messianic verses so it cannot possibly be an inherently ‘pagan’ word. Just ask any Jewish friend of yours and they will readily admit that getting 70 Jewish scholars to agree on something is a miracle!

ἐξῆλθες εἰς σωτηρίαν λαοῦ σου τοῦ σῶσαι τοὺς **χριστούς** σου ἔβαλες εἰς κεφαλὰς ἀνόμων θάνατον ἐξήγειρας δεσμοὺς ἕως τραχήλου διάψαλμα

You came out for the deliverance of your people, to save your anointed; you threw death on the heads of the lawless; you lifted bonds to the neck. [1]

Psalms of Solomon 17:35-6 (Jewish Wisdom Literature – first or second century BCE)

καὶ αὐτὸς βασιλεὺς δίκαιος διδακτὸς ὑπὸ θεοῦ ἐπ᾽ αὐτούς καὶ οὐκ ἔστιν ἀδικία ἐν ταῖς ἡμέραις αὐτοῦ ἐν μέσῳ αὐτῶν ὅτι πάντες ἅγιοι καὶ βασιλεὺς αὐτῶν **χριστὸς** κυρίου

…and to see the glory of the Lord that God glorified; and he is a righteous king over them, taught by God, and there is no injustice in his days among them; because they all are holy, and their king is the anointed Lord. [1]

There is nothing terrible going on here. Christos is obviously a completely legitimate non-pagan word. So, no more freaking out about the word Christ, please, it’s a title no different than Kyrios, Lord, God, El, Elohim, and even Ba’al—which Yahweh uses to describe Himself in Hosea. Semantic context always determines meaning. Always. Believe me, you do not even want to try living in a world where we can lift a word out of context and make it mean something entirely different. You just don’t. You don’t want to call your significant other a fox and have them accuse you of calling them an animal or, worse, comparing them to Herod Antipas because that is how Yeshua used it. 

Demonizing words is a form of online terrorism, guys. Let it go. We have to stop policing each other and looking for things to hate, because it compromises our integrity.

Be sure to check out the related posts about the words Lord, Lord and God, Yahweh, IHS, and Amen.

[1] Brannan, R., Penner, K. M., Loken, I., Aubrey, M., & Hoogendyk, I. (Eds.). (2012). The Lexham English Septuagint (Hab 3:13). Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press.

[1] Brannan, R., Penner, K. M., Loken, I., Aubrey, M., & Hoogendyk, I. (Eds.). (2012). The Lexham English Septuagint (Ps Sol 17:35–36). Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press.

 




Q: How Many Pagan Gods Were Born of Virgins (or even born) on December 25th? A: Zero

Of the charges leveled in order to undermine Christianity and the historical Yeshua ben Yosef aka Jesus Christ, one of the easiest to debunk is the idea that heathen religions are full of examples of this or that false god being born of a virgin on December 25th. Widespread among atheist detractors, these charges have spawned endless memes over the years – specifically since 2007 when the first Zeitgeist documentary was released and these charges were nonexistent before that. The scary thing is that believers have been using this hoax (one designed to prove that Jesus was simply a literary figure) not having any idea that the source of it is a conspiracy theory documentary developed to prove that there was no Messiah. Sadly, the claims are so flimsy that even a basic Wikipedia search can tear them to shreds (and you know how I feel about doing research with Wikipedia…) – and yet, they largely go unchallenged. So here is my challenge to those claims, as they are being used to create a false impression that the Jewish Messiah is a myth – and create unfounded arguments among believers. Links to other related articles are in bold blue.

Disclaimer: I do not celebrate Christmas, nor do I approve of it. Because of some unfortunate circumstances in the first few centuries of Christianity, Christmas came to replace the Biblical Feast of Tabernacles aka “Sukkot” which occurs during modern September/October sometime prior to 200CE. It is my firm belief that Sukkot was the day referred to by John as when “the Word became flesh and Tabernacled among us.” (John 1.14) My family celebrates the birth of Messiah then, and not in December, which was chosen because of an interesting theory among the Church Fathers about the conception and death of Messiah occurring on the exact same day – Passover – hence, forty weeks later giving rise to a date of birth of either December 25th or January 6th (both of which are still observed) depending on when they decided to place Passover.

So this post is not in any way in defense of Christmas, which I never defend, but instead a plea to clean up our online witness by not sharing memes and teachings based on atheist propaganda (although I do firmly stand against the charge that Jeremiah was speaking against Christmas trees in Jer 10). Promotion of the Feasts should be just that – we should teach the Feasts! I am currently writing two curriculum books within the Context for Kids series designed to teach what the Feasts looked like for an 11-year-old Yeshua/Jesus and 12-year-old John the Baptist in first-century Galilee and Judea. We don’t need to make up things to combat what we don’t like, okay? If something isn’t bad enough based on what is actually true about it, then perhaps we ought to revisit our objections and the source of them. As for me, the gross commercialism is apparent to anyone and I don’t ever get asked to prove it.

(NOTE: I will not publish comments unrelated to the topic at hand, which is specifically December 25th being the birthdate of a plethora of pagan gods. I understand this is a very emotional and agenda-driven topic for a lot of folks (hence the half-star rating not based on content but on the dislike of my content), and many ministries have staked their reputation on this information but this isn’t about anything except what can be proven historically. There is nothing personal about this. Of course, I never publish comments from people who come to the table with cheap shots, emotional arguments, and wild accusations about their uninformed opinions about my “true intentions” instead of factual data delivered respectfully.)

This meme is a classic example of how lies on colorful memes generally go unchallenged (because people have to pass an honesty test before Adobe will allow them to use Photoshop, right?) – even when it is incredibly easy to do so. This one clearly states “if he actually lived” and so I would hope that no believer would ever pass this particular one along, but I have seen these same charges passed around by believers on too many occasions to ignore it. I hate to say this, but some believers and ministries regurgitate such claims without investigation if it suits their agendas, and others outright make up lies – like Reverend Alexander Hislop in the 1850’s during the Protestant/Catholic PR wars where no expense was spared in undermining the warring Christian factions (Hislop’s book, The Two Babylons, in particular, was racially based in order to offend and terrify white British Protestants, attributing the origins of Catholicism to a deformed black man who dared to marry a beautiful white woman). I myself propagated some of these lies in the past – consider this part of my ongoing mea culpa. I want my witness to be worth something – God doesn’t need me to pass on revoltingly racist urban legends in order to promote His Word. The truth is all He has ever needed to propagate His Kingdom.

Now, first of all, I want to talk about the Roman Calendar. Every single ancient culture had their own separate Calendar – Egypt’s year began and ended with the inundation of the Nile in the summer; Babylonian years ended and began in the Spring in the months of Adar/Nisan during their bizarre twelve day Akitu festival in honor of Marduk; the Athenian calendar (Greek, but there were a lot of different Greek calendars) began and ended in the late summer; the classical Hindu calendar begins in the Spring, and beginning in 45 BCE, the Julian calendar began in January – a gross departure from how things had been handled previously. Before 45 BCE, the Roman calendar was historically a mess, with months from March to December (304 day year)  separated by a long random winter made longer or shorter at the whim of legislators who might like to extend or prematurely cut off the administration of a certain ruler. I say this to illustrate that the specific dating of anything to the Julian (and by obvious extension, the modern Gregorian) calendar before 45BCE is purely wishful thinking. Equating dates between one culture and another until just before the time of Messiah is nigh impossible, except in the cases of recorded astrological phenomena. Hence, in historical volumes of this era, we see things narrowed down to a few years or, if we are fortunate, a couple of months within a given year.

Our second problem: Until the deification of Julius Caesar in 42 BCE, almost no one cared about when anyone was born (the notable exception being Egypt). People cared about knowing when great deeds happened, and when great men died; they didn’t give a fig for anyone’s birthday unless it was associated with some great astronomical or historical event – otherwise, it didn’t warrant a mention. With the advent of the Imperial Cult, the birthdays of the Ceasars became public celebrations – but this was very new in the time of Messiah. It was so new, in fact, that scholars are fairly certain that Herod Antipas was not celebrating his birthday in Matt 14, but instead his regnal anniversary (after all, the day he came to the throne was more important than being born – no honor in being born, but becoming King? Oh yeah.) Besides Horus and Osiris – in the link provided above – not a single one of the birthdates claimed in memes like the one above, are actually recorded – and for the overwhelming majority, aren’t even commemorated.

Horus and Osiris – now this meme claims they were born on the same day – but, in fact, they were born on the first and third epagomenal days of the Egyptian Calendar as I explained in the previous link (not considered part of the year, but extra days outside of time). In the version of mythology where they were brothers, their mother had been cursed with an inability to have children on any day of the year but, through some fancy finagling, managed to get five extra days inserted at the time of the inundation of the Nile, during the summer. So not only weren’t they born on the same day, they were both born in the summer. As for the 3000 BC date – that is pure fiction. Egyptian records claim that the Pharaohs themselves went back much farther than that. As for the charge that either one of them were born of a virgin – that strikes out as well. In the most well known of Horus/Osiris mythology (the myths with no birthday mentioned at all), Horus’s parents were married, which generally discourages virginity and Isis was never portrayed as a virgin. Virginity has never been a highly prized trait among wives.

Attis of Phrygia – no birthday found anywhere. He castrated himself and wore a funny hat, and his priests castrated themselves as well. I think the only reason he was chosen for this list is because his mother was impregnated by an almond – which I suppose could be equated with a virgin birth.  If store labels can be believed, we can at least know that some olives are virgin, and some are even “extra virgin.” So, I imagine almonds can be at least as virtuous as olives. He was also one of the “dying gods” whose departure from the world marked the death of vegetation over the winter months.

Krishna – this one is popularly on such lists because somehow Krishna sounds enough like Christ that they want him included. However, the non-pagan origins of Christos in Greek Jewish writings, including the Septuagint version of the Scriptures (3rd century BCE), is well established. Krishna’s birthday is actually celebrated on Janamashtami, in the Hindu month of Shraavana (August/September on our calendar). So this one is just flat out manufactured when there is perfectly good information already out there, as is also the case with Horus and Osiris. Like Horus, Krishna’s parents were also married – no virgins here. The date of 1400 BCE is problematic as I am unaware of any mentions of this god before the first millennium BCE.

Zoroaster – now this guy, Zarathustra, was actually a real historical figure – a Persian prophet. No one knows when the heck this guy was actually born – sometime between the mid-second and mid-first millennium BCE. His parents were, again, married, sexually active – and both human. He was never worshiped (Ahura Mazda was the diety he preached) but founded the religion of Zoroastrianism. His birthday is now commemorated on the sixth day after the Persian New Year, and falls on March 26th or 28th each year on a holiday known as Khordad Sal. He is venerated as a prophet.

Mithra of Persia – (as opposed to Roman Mithras) – I am just going to link this article by the undisputed Mithra/Mithras expert Roger Beck – but no birthday, and he sprang to life fully adult from a rock (although I have no reason the doubt the rock’s virginity). I also wrote about Mithras and the problems with Mithras speculation here. Another related scholarly article is here about the related Sol Invictus.

Heracles – (original name of Hercules) – this dude’s mom was definitely not a virgin – she unknowingly had relations with Zeus, who was disguised as her husband. We have no reason to believe that she was holding out on her husband until the day Zeus showed up. The Greeks celebrated the date of his death as Heracleia, in late July/early August, but not his birth. Remember that, until Ceasar, birthdates were largely irrelevant and would only be mentioned with respect to signs in the sky or other great events, but not referenced with dates. The 800 BCE date on this one is bizarre – Herodotus claimed that Heracles lived 900 years before his own era, so roughly 1300 BCE.

Dionysus – worshipped beginning in the second millennium BCE by the Mycenians and better known by his later Roman name of Bacchus. Herodotus dates his mortal mother Semele’s life at around 2000 BCE.  She had an affair with Zeus, knowing he was Zeus – so not a virgin either or at least not a very dedicated one. But this is only one of the legends, in others the mother of Dionysus was Persephone, Queen of the Underworld. Like the Egyptians, the Greeks sometimes had regional origin stories. The weird thing about the date on this meme is that it is 186 BCE – the year that the Roman Senate prohibited the festival of Bacchanalia. So they used a legitimate date tied to Dionysus but utterly misrepresented it. It’s like saying I was born on the day I got put on the TSA “no-fly list.” (just kidding, that hasn’t happened)

Tammuz – I wrote an extensive blog on the very misrepresented Tammuz here, so I won’t go into great detail on this one. But 400 BCE? Ezekiel 8 has Tammuz being worshiped in the Temple, which was destroyed in 586 BCE – how on earth could he be born two hundred years later? And how could a Babylonian god who had a summer month named after him have his birthday celebrated on a calendar date that didn’t exist yet, by a still backward nation? Rome wasn’t even founded until 753 BCE, and at this point, Babylon and Rome were, for all intents and purposes, as far away as two countries could get while still being considered part of the known world. Yes, even mighty Rome was once a pathetic little backwater nation.

Adonis – born 200 BCE? I have seen an aryballos from the fifth century BCE with Adonis pictured on it, so again, I have no idea where this date comes from or why there would be a claim that the Greeks would be celebrating one of their gods’ birthdays according to the Roman calendar. There are many Adonis origin stories, most notably that which involved the incestuous union between his mother and grandfather, but none of them list a birth date. The only festival in his honor was Adonia, celebrated by women in the spring or summer (greatly disputed), commemorating his death. Again, they focused on how great men/demigods died.

Hermes – again – 400 BCE. How can we take seriously the claim that an ancient Greek god was only 400 years older than Messiah? In the 8th century BCE, Homer included Hermes in the Iliad. No birthdate is ever associated with him – but the Hermea festival was celebrated in his honor during the month of Hermaios (in poleis that had that month, not all did) – the timing of which varies according to the ancient regional calendars (as I mentioned previously, each region had its own separate calendar until the creation of the Thessalian calendar during the Roman era).

Prometheus – “born at the beginning of mankind” – in Greek legend he was the Titan who actually made mankind out of clay. That this birth supposedly happened on December 25th is undocumented and unsubstantiated historically. His parents were married and he was only one of their four children so, again, not a virgin birth either even though some memes make that claim. Not only wasn’t his mom a virgin, but she was also seeing Helios on the side.

Finally – I don’t know of a single scholar who thinks Yeshua/Jesus was born in June, and especially not sure why the 16th – now, in 2008 some astronomers made that claim, but it is hardly worthy of claims to scholarly consensus. And the last line equates BCE with CE – I just can’t even believe that someone would equate “Before Common Era” with “Common Era.” It’s like equating yesterday and tomorrow.

There are other accusations floated around with this December 25th myth that are just as baseless- Nimrod, Buddha, etc. – but I didn’t want to post memes from actual ministries so as to not humiliate them – I wanted to go to the source, and the source of all this is atheism. Sadly, believers have been spreading atheist propaganda in order to undermine Christmas at any cost, and so are unknowingly spreading what amounts to anti-missionary literature, undermining faith in the Jewish Messiah, instead of simply teaching the Biblical Feasts of the Lord. As a result, knowledge of the Feasts, even among those who try to keep them, is abysmal. Hey, I used to do this too – but then I started legitimately studying ancient Near Eastern and first-century world history, religion and culture. The stuff I was repeating had no correlations with the copious amounts of archaeological evidence at our disposal. In fact, over the past 150 years, our knowledge of the ancient world has exploded. It is our responsibility to study before we teach, and especially when those teachings include accusations of idolatry – a death penalty offense in the Bible. In the Bible, anyone who falsely witnessed against their neighbor with regards to a death penalty offense would themselves face the death penalty. We cannot accuse people of idolatry when we have no solid proof, or even remotely plausible theories. I trust God, His Messiah, His Word, and the integrity of His Feasts – I don’t need to lift propaganda from discredited sources. I take God’s laws very seriously.

Deuteronomy 19 15 “A single witness shall not suffice against a person for any crime or for any wrong in connection with any offense that he has committed. Only on the evidence of two witnesses or of three witnesses shall a charge be established. 16 If a malicious witness arises to accuse a person of wrongdoing, 17 then both parties to the dispute shall appear before the Lord, before the priests and the judges who are in office in those days.18 The judges shall inquire diligently, and if the witness is a false witness and has accused his brother falsely, 19 then you shall do to him as he had meant to do to his brother. So you shall purge the evil from your midst. 20 And the rest shall hear and fear, and shall never again commit any such evil among you. 21 Your eye shall not pity. It shall be life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.”

UPDATE: 9/25/19–If I had known about this video years ago, I would have added this. Very hilarious bit by LutheranSatire on youtube: Horus Ruins Christmas

UPDATE: 4/13/23–Inspiring Philosophy, a terrific YouTube channel, also has a bunch of videos dedicated to the Zeitgeist claims